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咨询关于屠宰场工作的情况?

大家好,我想了解一下屠宰场在国内招工的一些情况?中介向我收取15万的代理费用.如果我去的话,需要卖房才能去,恳请大家的帮助.
     本人是一名技术钳工,善于从事维修机械设备和安装.在国内的工资很少,我还要养父母他们的退休金很少,孩子上学等生活压力比较大,没办法.希望能得到大家的帮助,感谢.

如果你实在没法活了，那就过来替人卖身吧。把自己当牲口使，一年半应该能还上这15万。

你要有点英语，就自己申请技术移民吧!

u get 14 or 15 dollars here...

回复 #2 xpxp 的帖子

我可以使用英文交流在工作中,生活用语没什么问题.可是我的学历不够申请移民的条件.感谢您的留言.

15万代理费,过来屠宰场工作,觉得划不着

回复 #5 jason-bai 的帖子

那我又能怎么办?感谢您的留言.我开始决定去了~!

Don't be stupid. Many want backing . You will find out your losing will be more than getting, anyway, you will get nothing except think about suicide.Because nobody will give you job except you hiring yourself which mean impossible. There are even more liars here.Everywhere are traps waiting for you.

They stealing your ID then stealing your money in bank.

In China you can live in your own home, here , you have to rent in high , so have to share with people you do not know or like.

They try to steal or kill you or slander you.

If you have no money, you will be homeless.

They will give you junk jobs.They do not accept your degree. You are their cheap slave labors. They say good thing, but doing very different thing.

Some Chinese workers have died in Alberta by accident recently.

[[i] 本帖最后由 spring 于 2007-4-27 17:35 编辑 [/i]]

回复 #7 spring 的帖子

Thank you for the message ~!Canada is the legal community how so?
thank you very much~!
Please give me some information on where alright?
thanks for you help~!

Canada is the legal community, maybe!

But why do you want to come here by illegal way?

-15万的代理费用.
是不是買代理權?


-如果我去的话,需要卖房才能去,
卖房才能去，那麼，你是孤注一擲了。

加人入息約三萬一年。
過的日子算貧。

還有別的方法嗎？
95%的投資客都是草草了事，
輸小小，當教訓。
你想翻身嗎？
到頭來........唉~~~
信過來人吧

回复 #9 xpxp 的帖子

Dear Mr.
           I was in China agent .Is not illegal ~.but agent fees is too expensive.
           now this national holiday days in china , no timely response to your message.
           Your concerns that I am grateful .
           thanks for your help~!
         
           kim.

回复 #10 oneone11 的帖子

感谢您的留言:
                  相信到哪里都是富人的天堂,可是至少去了的话,只要我努力相信会有成绩.我在国内看不惯的事情很多,我又没有保险,又没有学历,哎~~!我已经不知道该怎么选择人生目标,在国内你努力在努力也不会有好的结果.我对国家没有信心.真心感谢您的留言~!
     
                  kim

我没听说过这样的好事，所以千万小心是个骗局。他们能帮你过来多半是不合法的，所以一旦你来这，没有法律保护你，只有驱逐你的法律，到时你就惨了。人财两空。中介就是靠钻法律空子和靠客户没经验赚钱。
不要什么都听中介的，他们唯一的目的就是让你跟他们走。既然你舍得一身剐，不妨花心思看看使馆，移民部的网站。如果这都对你太难，何必来加拿大考验自己。
15万啊，干点啥不好! 非要打水漂。

Kim,
相信到哪里都是富人的天堂,可是什麼是富？
中產的市民才是最慘的人。
萬稅,萬稅，，萬萬稅~~~~

-只要我努力相信会有成绩
對有成绩 去交稅！

我在加看不惯的事情也很多
,我也没有保险,也没有学历,哎~~!我亦早早已经不知道该怎么选择人生目标,
在加你努力在努力也不会有好的结果.
我对加拿大也没有信心.真心告訴你，天下烏鴉一樣黑！
千萬別上當。
為甚麼不先來加溜溜，
親身體驗？

回复 #14 oneone11 的帖子

您真诚的劝告会让我重新考虑.
  今天中介来电话催我交护照和5000元定金,他们告我顾主对我的英文很满意,可以给我的薪水是25加币小时以上.我说在考虑一下.因为我了解加拿大的薪水情况,好象没有这么多的吧?请老兄帮我分析一下.

     感谢您和大家的帮助~!

Did they lie to you? Most of the Chinese who came here have difficulties to communicate to the others in English and they said satisfied with your English? Unless you are very smart in English otherwise you will get in trouble here because you have problem communicating.

$25 & up CDN sounds attractive. The problem is that: "Will they live up their promise?" On the other hand, will they fire you in a short period of time or terminate your contract once it expired. In that case, they can grab your $150000 without offering you a lot and you still own them money.

可以给我的薪水是25加币小时以上

?????????  fuck!

I don't know the whole story.
1. Is it a job offer or buying a business?
what is that $15000 for?

according to what you wrote.
"Thank you for the message ~!Canada is the legal community how so?
thank you very much~!
Please give me some information on where alright?
thanks for you help~!"
and
"Dear Mr.
           I was in China agent .Is not illegal ~.but agent fees is too expensive.
           now this national holiday days in china , no timely response to your message.
           Your concerns that I am grateful .
           thanks for your help~!"
there are mistakes in your English writing.

I personally think that
this is not a good idea to give up all you have for your dream.

Thank you for your message
-Thank you for your response.

~!Canada is the legal community how so?
-canada is the country rules by the law.


Please give me some information on where alright?
-what is "on where" means? sorry, I don't understand what you want to ask.

thanks for you help~!"
-thanks for your help.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear Mr.
           I was in China agent .Is not illegal ~.but agent fees is too expensive.

- It is a legal agent in China. The agent fee is very expensive.  .

           now this national holiday days in china , no timely response to your message.
-I am very busy these days because it is the National holidays in China.
( Great! holiday is busier then the normal days.)

           Your concerns that I am grateful .
- It doesn't make sense. what do you want to say?
who's concern?

sorry for the rudeness.
:awkard:

To Alberta, Vencouver, or Toronto but Windsor if you decided really ........ really..............
want to come to Canada.

Canada looks like a heaven . But like someone knows will say, they promise you a heaven , but why you feel end up in hell?

Those beautiful lands, lakes and golf places are the private property.

If you see private property, even if you want to park 5 minutes, you need to be allowed.In US they have gun and have the legal right to kill people if you enter their yard.

Here and US are the states most like the ancient Roma empire actually. The classes are separated very clearly. You will become the lower leveled class forever and put in welfare which merely enough for you to survive badly. You will live in basement without window if you can not speak English and older enough to have skills they need.

Here many PHDs and mangers came from all around the world now doing the cheap labor job which only get 7 $ an hour and live in old apartment and doing dangerous jobs such as drive a cab, wash the dishes, working in late night shift, even those jobs are not to everybody. That mean many people are unemployment now.

They are nervous for tomorrow's bread and shelter.

Are you nervous now ? You have money but now looking for throw it to nothing, for sure worse life here.

Because here nobody will respect you .Even our PHDs be despised. Some men have to suicide in Toronto because long time no reply and no job. All good jobs are hiding only give to their friends and who can boasting.

Many people in Canada and US now only have debts but no saving money in their bank. Many have to go to jail if they can not pay. That is the reality. They will die in prison.You have to move about up to 5 times a year if you have no stable paid job. Also because of the unhappy share with messy people or live in an old and dirty apartment you can not bear.

We can not call here quality of life just barely survive . Some one even can not do that.
Many shops now keep on closing now in local downtown because people have no money to buy their high priced goods. We also have trouble to shop in wal-mart because it is very far and we do not have time and car to there .

Only those majority who are born here have right to enjoy life not us.

You will carry bills and become a slave for those creditors . You will always find out you owe other people who can control you money. Everything you need , you will be charged high.

Butcher company? You will find you becoming a prey of their mouth first only.
You will be rip off ASAP you here.
Most Chinese agents are liars and those can not make a life here so they back home cheat people's money.

It is easy hand out your cash but will not easy to ask back.

If you lucky, you will get some back by go hire a lawyer for you. Then will waste a lot time and hurt your health.

If say all dark birds are same, but , here even darker than you thinking.

You will die without knowing how and end up extremely poverty and nobody will care.They will have many ways to deal with you.

But if you insist to come, you can.

Some people even have no money to come back to China because can not pay the plane ticket. We have to donate money to help them and we are not easy too.

Many cases you do not know.

They are using your curious psychology to lure you here then will abandon you totally. Then you want to cry and talk, no one will hear you .

Yes, we also not happy the policy in China so come out.

We have big problems. But how we can do without patient to have a better leader for us?

We need health care, welfare and insurance for our people, all those need time to become real and you need to talk.

Do you think they get their welfare in vain? The English and French commons also have to struggle by rally and strike to get their benefits. Why do we always want to escape to other places but not do anything in our own place?

They fight hard to get their life now. There will be no good things add to you without your own effort.

You also have no responsibility to feed your parents and kids all their life then.

This need the social policy change and you at home need to express this to let them know and change.

Now you have a place to live and eat regularly, please forget about coming in case you can  not backing.

Do not trust those liars.

Pay noting to them.

Here many people even the native poor whites have nothing to eat everyday , and end up doing drugs and homeless because the shelters also not enough for everybody .

At that time, you feel sorry and regret is too late.

Basically you do not need to pay your parents and kids from your salary if you can not do so. Let them find their own way.
Now China in western and US and Canada's eyes  have better reputation even better than Europe, US and Canada where all have the wars and keep on fighting the wars. Because of no war and stable of life and quality of life there. Peace.

Many want to learn Mandarin and come to live in China now. Who want die in wars? Those died in wars really have no choice.

Think about their own life.

[[i] 本帖最后由 spring 于 2007-5-4 00:40 编辑 [/i]]

Thanks. I got a lot.
Wish somebody else would.

[quote]原帖由 [i]spring[/i] 于 2007-5-4 00:05 发表
Most Chinese agents are liars and those can not make a life here so they back home cheat people's money.

It is easy hand out your cash but will not easy to ask back.  [/quote]

Agree. Think deep before you come over. Your agent ask a lot and no guarentee for the stable of the job.

回复 #16 Smartpo 的帖子

Thank you very much for your messages ~!
I think I had to cancel the plan.

Very grateful to all the help I ~!

回答

楼住，不是不可以去，但是你的收费太高了，用不了９万就可以去的．怎么要１５万呢

agree

這裡某些無良中介，(中國人的)
不單巧立名目，未工作，先要倍上費用。
亦需要求員工有工咭，有保健咭，
而薪金卻遠低於市价。
為人惡形惡相，
罵人不絕口。
怕怕.....................
:walleyed:

回复 #21 spring 的帖子

Thank you for your message.

回复 #25 jdq5879 的帖子

您好~!
        可能是代理要的太高了,我现在不考虑去了,谢谢大家的帮助~!肉烂烂在锅里.

I think some of you guys are way too pessimistic or just trying to scare him off. While your intention is good, but you certainly have made exaggerated comments.
Quick glance about spring's reply. I have never heard of ppl going to jail because they didnt pay their bills. Ever heard of Bankruptcy? If not paying your bills means jail time, you think jails here can accommodate so many prisoners?
You comments about class and private property.. Which country in the world is not like that these days? Thats called capitalism, and we all know communism doesnt work. How about in China? You dont think there is some kind of class system in China? worst, greedy politicians and government officials harrassing people for money, etc.
All in all, I think spring is just a little bitter about life in Canada. Life is not easy in Canada for many people, but being bitter and complain doesnt help.
True happiness is being content about what you have, not looking at what the guy next to you have.

Some facts about his situation
Yes, the 150k fees he is paying is way too high
Yes, you have a chance to be more successful than in China even if you work in slaughter house. If you are good at saving money, and live in a city where cost of living is low.

There are plenty of success stories where illegal immigrant from china who worked their ass off in restaurents and saved up money to do something else, ie. running a small business or go to school. Its really up to you if you can take on the hardship and save every penny.
What the agent offers is NOT illegal technically. What he charges you , the fees, are somewhat illegal, but you are coming into canada legally.
The agent finds you an employer who is willing to provide you with a job offer and thus a working visa. Nothing illegal about this.

[[i] 本帖最后由 orem 于 2007-5-12 09:23 编辑 [/i]]

回复 #30 orem 的帖子

To: Orem
          Very grateful for your sincere words. You said that the situation might change my life.
     
         Thanks my firends~!

         KIM